Kerrydale Street-Managers Thread || Motherwell appoint Michael Wimmer (2025)

seaneh01 wrote: ↑

Jul 16, 2024

It's a sad old day, we're eff if they get someone even half competent.

They wont. The competent ones have proper jobs .

Well whoever we (England) appoint is sure to be better than Steve Clarke.

Unless it's Lampard. Or Gerrard. Or Warburton.

The Foggy Dude wrote:

He took a Country with a population less than Belfast to a World Cup and the quarter finals of a Euros.

Further than Scotland have ever been in any tournament and matching Ireland’s best ever tournament record.

He deserves a fair hearing.

Scotland have been in the last 8 in the Euros.

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Antoninho wrote: ↑

Jul 16, 2024

A competent manager can actually do a lot with these players. Southgate was holding them back. A manager who knows what they’re doing can take them all the way. As much as I hate to say it.

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A competent manager might get a draw against a decent side earlier in a tournament.

J_C_X wrote: ↑

Jul 16, 2024

Antoninho wrote: ↑

Jul 16, 2024

A competent manager can actually do a lot with these players. Southgate was holding them back. A manager who knows what they’re doing can take them all the way. As much as I hate to say it.

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A competent manager might get a draw against a decent side earlier in a tournament.

Absolutely. The argument I've been having with people today. Appreciate this sounds incredibly arrogant but we've not beaten a single better team in the knockouts.

Yeah sure we've beaten Sweden, Senegal, Switzerland, Slovakia, Denmark and a very poor Germany in knockout football but every single time we've played a better team- Italy at Wembley, France at the last World Cup, Spain this Euros etc we've lost.

We were a few seconds from going out in the RO16 at this Euros yet people seem to have just forgotten that.

Lomac wrote: ↑

Jul 16, 2024

Wish Steve Clarke would realise that he’s taken Scotland as far as he can.

Who are Scotland going to get who’s better though? Moyes? Too similar to Clarke. Think Clarke will stay,

GarCul36 wrote: ↑

Jul 07, 2024

Tam86 wrote: ↑

Jul 07, 2024

If the Euro's have shown anything, it's time for old duffers like Deschamps, Southgate, Koeman and that balloon at Portugal to step aside and let a new, fresh generation come through.

Agree about them stepping aside, but age has nothing to do with it. At 74, Arsene Wenger is 20 years older than Deschamps for example and he'd have France playing an exciting attacking brand of football with those players at his disposal compared to Deschamps' cautious pish.

Martinez & Southgate are both young managers, 50 & 53, but have stunk the tournament out with their mindset, not their age.

Agreed. Postecoglou and Marcelo Bielsa are both older than Southgate and both are as dynamic as they come. Nought to do with age.

Nooo, come back sweet prince!

How long are the pundits down there going to blame it all on managers? I think they've, at the very least, had squads individually as good as this one, maybe better and still not won anything.

International football is just not a draw to any top manager with anything left in the tank.

I mean, Southgate got the job in the first place, that's the track right there. It's the same as all those moonunit USMNT fans calling for Klopp and Guardiola when they'll likely end up with Herve Renard.

Potter will be a good as it gets.

It will be interesting to find out whether this is actually a great squad being poorly managed, or a decent squad being managed to a decent level. Personally, seen decades of English fans/media routinely overestimating the quality and confusing cost with value, my suspicion is that it's the latter.

Southgate's resilient style, combined with an uncanny ability to avoid the difficult side of the draw probably had them punching about their weight (or slightly above) at tournament level.

In my entire life, it's always been the next manager will be the one to take their team of superstars to their rightful glory and it never happens. I suspect the next guy comes in, doesnt play a pragmatic game and goes out at last 16/8 again and they all clamour for the days of Southgate.

Iggy_Pop_Barker wrote: ↑

Jul 16, 2024

It will be interesting to find out whether this is actually a great squad being poorly managed, or a decent squad being managed to a decent level. Personally, seen decades of English fans/media routinely overestimating the quality and confusing cost with value, my suspicion is that it's the latter.

Southgate's resilient style, combined with an uncanny ability to avoid the difficult side of the draw probably had them punching about their weight (or slightly above) at tournament level.

In my entire life, it's always been the next manager will be the one to take their team of superstars to their rightful glory and it never happens. I suspect the next guy comes in, doesnt play a pragmatic game and goes out at last 16/8 again and they all clamour for the days of Southgate.

Ever read a post and do a double take thinking "did I not just write that?" only to realise that no... I haven't written it yet. No need now, this is 100% in agreement with my thoughts, though I'm maybe more fully convinced that Southgate definitely had them out performing, whether by pragmatism or by obscene luck.

Big_Bobo_Balde wrote: ↑

Jul 09, 2024

Bellamy confirms as Wales boss, wish him well!

No one I know (who gives a mwnci's about Wales) has a clue how this will pan out. He talks a good game and clearly sees it as a massive honour BUT could start a row in an empty room. Results in the Nations League will be interesting and telling. If he starts badly and throws players under the bus thinsg will unravel quickly.

Hoping for Lampard or Slippy for England. Much talk about them having the best squad at the Euros probably skewed by those saying it mainly watching EPL highlights. A decent manager would test this theory for sure.

15not25 wrote: ↑

Jul 16, 2024

world record number of potential england managers